John Gospel & Acts
G. M. G.
Charles Welch realized that we need somehow to arrange Christians, who are not in The Body, to give them some Letters from the NT for modern practice and live; and he wrote 'John & The Mystery'. Because Charles Welch traditionally and sincerely believed that 2 Timothy is the last Letter of Paul; and the Pastoral Epistles contain and hidden The Mystery of the Body, he began to search for other NT books. He found in the Matthew 22 the parable about guests for a marriage of king's son, and in the John about sheep not of this fold. And Charles Welch determined that those, who are not in The Body, let be "guests" and "sheep not of this fold". He also decided that the Gospel of John will be written after Acts 28:28.
In our opinion it is not serious to discuss any mention of our dispensation in the Matthew. The links to the history of Israel, Moses and etc. destroy the assertion that the John says to Gentiles. Evangelize of Gentiles, telling them as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, and about need to born again, about that even Jewish Pharisee Nicodemus did not understand we think it is unbelievable and an annoying mistake. Of course, it is possible to pull out a single verse of John. 3:16 from context of Moses, serpent, judgment, perdition & etc, and plentifully to add to this verse the immeasurable grace for Gentiles of Paul's letters, and then try to prove what is not.
...other sheep I have which are not of this fold from John 10:16 It is Israel in the Diaspora, as well as the Samaritans. The Samaritans were not considered Gentiles; not for nothing Christ came to Samaria in the John 4. He showed His disciples that the Samaritans believe in Him as the One True God.
The other sheep of John 10:16 where other = allos of the same kind, and to fit the context, which is concerning sheep, these other sheep are Israel. See Isaiah 56:8
2. We do not have any one of the four (!) synoptic Gospels, and the like can not be at all (!), about our dispensation. We have the set of 4 Gospels. It is impossible to separate the one.
3. There is today for unbelieving Gentiles necessary and preaching of the Gospel, for which Paul became a minister.
We believe that the dispensational place of the Gospel of John is the period of Acts. More accuracy, this is the period after the conversion of the Gentile Cornelius in Acts, when Peter opened the door of faith to the Gentiles, that they became wild olive branches grafted to the olive tree of Israel.
John 1: 11-13 In this passage there is no opposition between OWN and NOT OWN
It contrasts: OWN, which did not accept, which the majority and OWN, which accepted, there are few of them - this is a small remainder.
The meaning of the passage is: He came to His own and as a whole, basically His own did not accept Him, but to all His own, who accepted Him, gave them the authority to become God's children.
This is also confirmed by the context, the verses closest to this place:
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and dwelt among us and we saw His glory Among whom did Christ dwell in the flesh and who SEEED His glory? The people of Israel.
John 1:15, 1: 6 John mentions another John, John is explained only in general terms. Only a representative of the people of Israel, who knew their history, could understand, without explanation, what kind of John is here. Gentiles would be entangled in these two John. John 1:17 The same can be said of the Law and Moses.
John 20:30, 31
Here we see the faith affirmed and strengthened with the SIGNS in order for readers to Ev. from John they believed, John testifies in his Gospel of many signs and wonders. And what kind of people always demanded confirmation of their faith by the SIGNS? Jesus himself answers this in John 4:48 and Paul in 1 Corinthians 1: 22. The Jews demand signs ...
John 3:16 everlasting life - zoen aionion - life in the coming age (aion)
Lets define what groups of believers we have in the period of Acts, before the message in Acts 28:28 was proclaimed by Paul.
1. The Jews living in the Israel land.
2. The Jews living in the Diaspora.
3. Proselytes in the land of Israel and in the Diaspora.
4. The devout and God-fearing Gentiles, have not yet become proselytes, having sympathetic to the Jews at the synagogues.
Nothing it is said in Acts period about the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the Law of Moses, who did not know the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Nothing it is saying of those, who excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, who have no hope and without God in the world. About this group we can read only in the books, that were written after the message of Acts 28:28.
To all your comments on the Gospel of John, we can say, "Yes, and Amen." There is really the message, not only for Jews, but also for the Gentiles in the world. However, there is only one question: For what kind of Gentiles? For Gentiles of the period of Acts or For Gentiles of the dispensation, which had come after the proclaiming of the message in Acts 28:28?
You have shown many places in the Gospel of John, which are translation or explanation of Hebrew words and terms for the Gentiles. This does not contradict the fact, that dispensational place of the Gospel of John is the period of Acts.
There are many places in the Gospel of John, where the Hebrew words, terms and concepts was not translated and was not explained, although it would seem, translation and explanation are necessary for the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the God of Abraham.
For example: John 1:17 the Law of Moses
Jn.1:19. Priests and the Levites
Jn.1:21. Elijah the prophet
Jn.1:23. Quote from Isaiah the prophet
Jn.1: 29.31. Lamb of God, baptize, revealed to Israel
Jn.2:13. Passover of the Jews. It is require a more detailed explanation for the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the God of Abraham
John Chapter 3. It is necessary to know the Scriptures and the prophets to understand what means the birth from on high and born of water and the Spirit to enter the Kingdom. It required more detailed interpretation for the Gentiles, who did not knew the Scriptures and the God of Abraham. After these words of Christ, even Pharisee Nicodemus understood nothing.
Jn.3:14. Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness - the same
Jn.4: 9. The Samaritan woman said to Jesus a similar words as Peter said to Him in Acts 10:14, when the Lord sent Peter to the home of Cornelius - there is nothing which contradicts to the second part of the period of Acts. Besides, let's not forget that the father of Samaritans is Jacob (Jn.4:12).
Jn.4:22. Salvation from the Jews. It is thus as in the period of Acts.
Jn.4:25. Samaritan woman herself interprets the word Messiah. Samaritans in John's Gospel remind us of God-fearing and devout Gentiles of the period of Acts, such as Cornelius.
Jn.4:48. These verses are parallel to the overall goal of the Gospel of John 20: 30,31. John described the Signs and Wonders that Jesus did for those, to whom was addressed this gospel, and they should believe. Signs and wonders fully corresponds to the period of Acts.
Jn.5: 9. Sabbat. It requires more interpretation for the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the God of Abraham.
Jn.5: 39, 46, 47. It is clear that here is message to those who knew the Scriptures of Moses. This fully corresponds to the period of Acts, when Paul dont testified for all the Gentiles in the World, but mostly testifies for God-fearing and devout Gentiles, who know the Scriptures, who helped to the people of Israel, who visited the synagogue, but who did not even become proselytes.
Jn.6:30, 31. Once more Signs. Manna in the wilderness. This requires a more detailed explanation for the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the God of Abraham. Put your attention on the words our fathers.
Jn.6: 53-56. It requires a more detailed interpretation for the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, even more detailed, than the interpretation of the Lord's Supper. After these words of Christ, even His disciples understood nothing (John. 6:60).
Jn.7:22. Circumcision - the same thing.
Jn.12: 12-15. King and Kingdom.
Jn.12:20. Greeks went to worship at the feast in Jerusalem - they were God-fearing and devout Greeks. This corresponds so well with the period of Acts!
Jn.12: 37-42. It is an interpretation of the words in John1: 10-13. As you can see, the main part of Israel has not believed. But the remnant has believed. It corresponds so well with the period of Acts! (Romans chapter 11.)
Jn.19: 19-20. Jesus the Nazarene, the King of the Jews, written in Hebrew, and in Latin, and in Greek. Translations of words does not necessarily indicate that the Gospel of John written after Acts 28:28 for the Gentiles of our dispensation.
Jn.19:42. Day of preparation to the Passover. It requires a more detailed explanation for the Gentiles, who did not know the Scriptures and the God of Abraham.
There are much more, but you can see yourself .
John could say with faith, as Paul said in Romans chapter 11: God has not rejected His people? Surely has not rejected! Romans 11: 5 there come to be a remnant at the present time. This is, surely, the period of Acts!